"Of those three to five reports, one. for some excitement. Re (2): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct - By Ryan January 31, 2016 at 11:16:51 PM. According to French's article: To date, the only other confirmed evidence of a wild Mountain Lion in Massachusetts was found on March 4, 2011, when Steve Ward, a DCR forester, photographed a trail in the snow crossing a frozen cove near the southwestern end of Quabbin Reservoir. Now, similar proof is what we need! It is also known as cougar, panther, mountain lion, and puma, though catamount is the preferred regional vernacular. Harrigans interest in cougars was sparked in the late 70s, after he took ownership of The Coos County Democrat and began noticing the steady influx of reported sightings. Open MF, 8 a.m.4 p.m. (closed noon12:30 for lunch). Well, theres no difference between Maine and New Brunswick, anyway, said Betty. Here's a look at 8 commonly found in the Berkshires. 2, 2015) French wrote a thorough piece, "Mountain Lions in Massachusetts: Distinguishing the Fiction from the Facts." We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. You treat it as if it's a sincere situation. Hawley: Yeah. And then just up behind it you know at about 11 o'clock on one side and whatever that would be on the other side it's black. Both male and female lions have similar appearance, but male lions are 30 to 40 percent bigger than the females, according to the Mountain Lion Foundation. Patrick Tate: So it's very typical. Ottmann nodded. Coyotes have also been mistaken for Mountain Lions. Peter Biello: Hmm. Bobcats in Feeding Hills - By Claire October 3, 2014 at 09:39:37 PM. Caller: And then there's the Lily Pond Road and then there's a six foot tall fence. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. A lock icon ( McCarter sent a sample to Dr. George Amato of the Wildlife Conservation Society in New York and Dr. Melanie Culver of the University of Maryland. I was at the Sentinel as a reporter there for about four years and during that time I probably wrote close to a half dozen stories or so on this topic including a lengthy feature at one point that in which I spoke to several people from around the banana region claimed to have seen mountain lions that at one time or another. The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. All these photos were taken in a state other than Massachusetts. By mid-19th century, forests made up only about 30 percent of New England (its notable that today that number stands at approximately 80 percent, nearer to what it was when cougars thrived here). Also, Bobcats are spreading into areas in which they have not been seen before. Please do not include personal or contact information. The debate rages in Maine, where the last confirmed cougar kill occurred in 1938, and in New Hampshire, where the last confirmed kill was in 1885. If we end up with a population, it will be the result of a colonizer female who gets here somehow, some way, and the rest will be history.. So there's even debate about that very subject. Patrick Tate: So I agree with what Sam said in part that their ability to go undetected for amount of time but ultimately it was detected. There were pine cones on window sills, a well-used hatchet and a variety of animal figurines on display, and, near the television, a stack of videos including Life of a Predator and The African Lion. Mike you're on the air. When they were landing or taking off and it seems like it's been there for like. In April 1997, experienced tracker John McCarter found scat near a beaver carcass at the Quabbin Reservation. And it was this curiosity that led me to the Old Well Tavern in Simsbury, Connecticut, at a time of day (11:30 a.m.) that does not normally find me ensconced in the dim confines of a drinking establishment. I'm gonna send you a letter that we researched this report and we spoke with those labs and the lab wrote in their letter to us that they could only say that Scott contained white Tea Party fur and that they could not say what deposited the scout because it's far too degraded listeners we'd love to hear from you about your mountain lion sightings if you have seen one or if you if you think you have give us a call we'd love to hear your story 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Morse introduced me to her cat, Allister, whom she referred to as her portable puma. Then she fetched me a beer. Peter Biello: And that will make identification for a layperson rather difficult. Over a period of a year and a half, this mountain lion left DNA evidence in at least four states. Well thanks for sharing. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal. (I don't get the daily Eagle but I get The Berkshires in Brief [online newsletter] and read it daily.). You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist thanks very much for being here this morning really appreciate it. Mistaken reports of mountain lions are most commonly bobcats. Part of this belief is rooted in his journalistic experience, which across the decades has cultivated his nose for sincerity. Caller: Oh hi. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof. Ecosystem Management Consultants of New England, Ask Sam, and recently fielded question about mountain lions, Manchester installs monitors to track air quality disparities. So I think the point that I just want to get across is that there is a very strong sense this here in the and not region that there is that there is some sort of mountain lion population how large it is how extensive it is. That's next time on one day. Tim Yeah. Many people do not realize how large a grown Bobcat is. Mountain lions weigh . We have seen them run through our yard. When they fly, it is more like a burst and reaches around 50 mph. Just one quick point I think I think when we we talk about these conspiracy theories the real story is that fish and game is an agency that that is short on budget and staff. When I accepted the assignment to write about my quest to uncover the truth regarding the existence of cougars in New England, I had little idea what I was agreeing to. Peter Biello: Worth mentioning if we're scaring anybody question a mysterious mountain lions lurking perhaps in someone's backyard. We actually have the largest subspecies of bobcat in the northern part of our state which they can get up to 40 and over 40 pounds which looks like an 80 pound the animal to visually and quite large. When you talk about a bobcat Bobcat maybe 80 90 pounds and then a mountain lion could be between 130 and 180 pounds. There are two records of mountain lions in Massachusetts thatmeet the evidence requirements. Now and then MassWildlife gets a report with a photo of a mountain lion. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting. Think you've seen a mountain lion. So I know it's another unconfirmed report but you string enough of these together. Im gonna get hammered for it, he sighed. And it came out we could see it had and we could see its long swooping tail. A hiker fought off a mountain lion that ambushed him in a canyon in Utah by throwing rocks at it, wildlife officials say. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. They sent he sent his scent those two samples with his to Wyoming an unfortunate Fish and Game Commission there did not get a positive read on it but send it back to Central Michigan University where they did a nuclear micro satellite DNA analysis and found no significant difference between that scat and other scats that were tested from the Rocky Mountain region. Most mountain lion sightings are reported without any evidence other than eyewitness descriptions. Here's why reports are so tough to prove mass.gov/doc/mountain-lions-in-massachusetts-distinguishing-fiction-from-the-facts/download, There are 69 invasive plant species in Massachusetts. The last catamount killed in Vermont stands under glass just inside the doors to the Vermont Historical Museum in Montpelier, a hop, skip, and a jump down the block from the statehouse. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. Kyle I think about Rick Tate wants to jump in here. They reported seeing the big tail and everything everything. Peter Biello: Oh okay. Patrick Tate: Martin Like what about Panther Panther saying animals same animal and like a bit of trivia Guinness Book of World Records says the animal with the most names is in English alone they're supposedly 40 names for Mount lion. These were normal everyday folks. Re(1): Webster update - Misunderstanding! Sighting: An animal is seen by the public and is . Still, sightings are common. But its also a great story that lays out how an animal this large, at 150 pounds, traveling through even rural areas, leaves signs and is detected. Like why would you want one wildlife. Peter Biello: So let's say Rick that it was confirmed that there that there are mountain lines here in New Hampshire. If so that's for us as an agency. On the idea of bear hunting in Connecticut. Re(3): Webster update - Misunderstanding. I must have looked doubtfulwe were within spitting distance of a heavily traffickedroad and only 12 miles from downtown Hartfordbut both Ottmann and Betty told me that cougars actually prefer more populated areas, since thats where deer tend to congregate. [Betty] and the other guys dont do this shit. For me as a person who's handled many bobcats and looked at many pictures Bobcat the White chin Bobcat right off is what comes out to me and then the black the the roughs on our Bobcats we'll have sometimes have black fringes on them. At least once a year thered be a story from somewhere, but I only ran the absolute best, he told me. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. I could hear the steady rush of traffic on Route 315. Further, it is already illegal to kill a mountain lion in Massachusetts. So try to take photographs if you see something like this. Massachusetts and several other New England states have bear hunting, or harvest, seasons, which proponents say help control populations. Morse has been tracking cougars for 45 years, mostly in the mountains of the West, where their existence is not in doubt. There's no logic for why they'd be listed as an endangered species. Patrick Tate: Nice talk to you too. It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. There's these animals aren't coming with a map saying oh I want to go here. As livestock farming came to dominate the landscape, pressure on the big cats slowly mounted on two fronts: The number of farmers wanting them dead was increasing, while the rapid transition from forest to farmland meant their habitat was shrinking. Caller: I do. There have been only two caseswhere evidence supports the presence of a mountain lion in Massachusetts. Because while male cougars eventually strike out on their own and occasionally wander far from home, females are, as Morse puts it, hardwired to remain close to their mothers home range. As a carnivore biologist, Hawley says he would love it if mountain lions were here. Mountain lions are solitary and . So I don't understand really how how this this idea came to be but it is the main reason why folks believe that fishing game is is covering up the fact that there are mountain lions in the state again with no evidence. Sam Evans-Brown: Well first I want to sort of explain why what the theory is but then also throw a bit of cold water on it because I don't think there's much much logic behind it but essentially is that if fish and game were to acknowledge that there was a population of Mount lions in the state there's a chance that something like a listing under the federal Endangered Species Act might happen and then there'd be you know some they'd have to put a plan in place to protect the species there'd be you know restrictions put on development. It's got a a smudge of black and bobcats and links just don't have that we don't have any other cards. Many people do not realize how large a grown Bobcat is. Im not an expert on human psychology, but if youre looking for something, you have a greater chance of actually seeing it. So its this gathering storm. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an HP yard today we're talking about the mysterious elusive majestic Mystic Mountain Lion. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. Patrick Tate: Well. I do this shit.. Cougar truthers are certain that the big cat is living and breeding again in New England. It is also called Poor mans Weatherglass because it needs a sunny day to open (similar to chicory, another plant, only much larger with blue flowers that were brought here from Europe). support for an HBO who comes from you our listener Sam from advanced in you a local New Hampshire nonprofit specializing in college student loans and student refinancing options. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Is that typically what was happening there. You might think that it would be easy to tell the two cat species apart. The number 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 so promised a discussion about conspiracy theories. New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board, Mountain lion/wolf sightings in Central Ma, Re(1): Mountain lion/wolf sightings in Central Ma, Re(2): Mountain lion/wolf sightings in Central Ma, Ellisville State Park cougar killed crossing 3A in S. Plymouth, MA, Re(1): Ellisville State Park cougar killed crossing 3A in S. Plymouth, MA, Re(2): Ellisville State Park cougar killed crossing 3A in S. Plymouth, MA, Sighting just over CT border into Vista, NY, Re(1): Sighting just over CT border into Vista, NY, VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(1): VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(2): VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(3): VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(4): VideoWild cat sighting, North Scituate, RI, Re(1): Mountain lion/bobcat?/North Andover. And it was unmistakable. And so. Caller: Hey guys how you doing. People clearly arent lying when they say they saw a cougar; [the sighting] has a profound effect on them., Still, Spatz acknowledged that the word hope is very different from the word believe. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. Caller: Yeah I hadn't experienced blastoff fall so this was around September and I was driving from Webster into Concord on Horse Hill Road and anybody in the area would know I was right near the Red Barn and all of a sudden this animal jumps out of the woods and it bounded across the road in about two two giant leaps and stopped in the field just on the other side. Thank you. It had rained previously. They are the same thing. The nonbelievers are going to say Show us your evidence and show us prove this to us. Not one picture of him online while the person meet with us. And I would like to see more plants and even animals in future columns. So yeah as far as wildlife species that put deer and trees know there aren't any others that I know of that put deer in trees just just humans might be responsible for that. But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could. In March 2011, DCR forester Steve Ward photographed a track trail in the snow near the Gate 8 boat launch area of Quabbin Reservoir. In certain situations, the similarities in the silhouette are remarkable. And really whenever you hear tiny code and long rope like tale it's kind of hard to pin this sighting on any other creature rather than an outline or just nothing else really matches that description. There were caribou antlers mounted above the front doors, and the interior walls were covered in row upon row of books; a long table was piled high with still more books in seemingly random arrangements. And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. Patrick Tate: Exactly I was gonna bring that up juvenile male of. I was able to look up the particulars and photos online. The big cat on the ground before him, motionless, yet somehow still embodying that particular feline litheness, as if, with the flick of its tail, it might bound to its feet and disappear into the woods. Rick van de Poll: Absolutely. It was not in any hurry. New Hampshire Public Radio | Here it is. And so when they come to him with a sighting, hes prepared to believe. Both cases meet the evidence requirements of MassWildlife. Support NHPR by becoming a sustaining member today! If it's just in the middle of a greenfield you can't prove anything. Really appreciate it. Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. Love hearing these stories. Ottmann grew up and still lives just minutes from the tavern; his familiarity with the establishment was obvious (after we met in the parking lot, he led me into the building through the kitchen, greeting each of the staff by name). Wildlife do really crazy things, and you just never know.. Anyone can get fooled. Yeah I did. I just want to tell you a story that I read. Clearly, Puma concoloronce inhabited the forests of the Northeast, although its difficult to say in what numbers. OK. She is renowned for tracking. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. ml central ma. Betty, for instance, has presented on Eastern cougars more than 300 times, gathering many hundreds of sighting reports in the process. All other reports of mountain lions in Massachusetts have turned out to be other animals. So when we talk about the threshold of evidence required to say for sure you have seen a mountain lion it is rather high. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org.
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